There were some
nuggets of wisdom in this debate, wish SA had more of these with such diverse
views: Lybon Mabasa had me thinking about the Biblical saying from Jesus,
'...no-one puts new wine in old wineskins...'.
nuggets of wisdom in this debate, wish SA had more of these with such diverse
views: Lybon Mabasa had me thinking about the Biblical saying from Jesus,
'...no-one puts new wine in old wineskins...'.
The argument that
ANC, at Mandela's leading, went into power and simply took over structures that
had been put into place as a means of repression seems to be evidenced by the
fact that only a minority of blacks have prospered since the end of apartheid.
This holds true if what he says is correct.
ANC, at Mandela's leading, went into power and simply took over structures that
had been put into place as a means of repression seems to be evidenced by the
fact that only a minority of blacks have prospered since the end of apartheid.
This holds true if what he says is correct.
So what is needed,
if that is correct, is a structural change in the systems of governance and
economy; after apartheid it looks like CODESA (sp) was insufficient to provide
the thrust of change needed for the new dispensation. As Obama once
said..maybe...'lipstick on a pig'.
if that is correct, is a structural change in the systems of governance and
economy; after apartheid it looks like CODESA (sp) was insufficient to provide
the thrust of change needed for the new dispensation. As Obama once
said..maybe...'lipstick on a pig'.
In light of what
Lybon Mabasa said then, it seems that, what Dirk Herman said actually segues
neatly. 'If you look at the current system...black SA are now also victims..'
Lybon Mabasa said then, it seems that, what Dirk Herman said actually segues
neatly. 'If you look at the current system...black SA are now also victims..'
I don't understand
why people laughed, perhaps they cant stand the man for what he represents; I
don't know him myself but he has a point and seems to be following on from
precisely the point of what Mabasa was saying.
why people laughed, perhaps they cant stand the man for what he represents; I
don't know him myself but he has a point and seems to be following on from
precisely the point of what Mabasa was saying.
Yes, black people
are now also a victim of the system that both these speakers have identified as
being structured to maximise injustice and inequity!!!! Regardless of who is in
charge of it!!
are now also a victim of the system that both these speakers have identified as
being structured to maximise injustice and inequity!!!! Regardless of who is in
charge of it!!
And so, the job of
SA today; its intelligentsia, economy and political structures, in order to
save itself as it were, is to identify which of the structures, as a matter of
urgency, must be jettisoned.
SA today; its intelligentsia, economy and political structures, in order to
save itself as it were, is to identify which of the structures, as a matter of
urgency, must be jettisoned.
Yes, redistributing
wealth, land and economic structures into different hands is important. But
what is more important is to come together, if its possible, and find the means
to action that. Clearly, the previous plans did not work. Clearly black people
no longer trust white farmers to act in good faith.
wealth, land and economic structures into different hands is important. But
what is more important is to come together, if its possible, and find the means
to action that. Clearly, the previous plans did not work. Clearly black people
no longer trust white farmers to act in good faith.
Both sides must
recognise that changes must be made and now. Are there no black people in
agricultural colleges? Why is 'white capital' not employing black people and
how can they work positively to achieve that goal without capital flight?
recognise that changes must be made and now. Are there no black people in
agricultural colleges? Why is 'white capital' not employing black people and
how can they work positively to achieve that goal without capital flight?
Is 'white capital'
too privileged and at ease to care? Do they want black people to fail? Is there
a deliberate economic sabotage as happened in Zim?
too privileged and at ease to care? Do they want black people to fail? Is there
a deliberate economic sabotage as happened in Zim?
